Jacqueline Boykin of Habitat for Humanity

Habitat for Humanity doesn’t give away houses. Everyone who lives in one of these homes pays a mortgage, goes through financial literacy courses, and has to help in building the home. Those are just a few of the tidbits that Jacqueline Boykin lets us know in today’s episode.

Jacqueline is Vice President of Development for the Habitat for Humanity of Greater Orlando and Osceola County. She joined Jordan to discuss some of what Habitat is doing for our neighbors and businesses in Central Florida. If you’re looking for a great group to get involved within this giving season, then Habitat for Humanity is a great group.

Habitat for Humanity Greater Orlando & Osceola County is part of a global, nonprofit housing organization whose vision is a world where everyone has a decent place to live. Habitat Orlando & Osceola is dedicated to eliminating substandard housing locally and worldwide through constructing, rehabilitating and preserving homes; by advocating for fair and just housing policies; and by providing training and access to resources to help families improve their shelter conditions.

Episode 27: Jacqueline Boykin of Habitat for Humanity – Full Transcript

Jacqueline Boykin 0:00
homeowners are dedicated to, like I said, You know, I had a young man in the speech when his grandmother actually moved into her home. And he was raised by his grandmother and he said the greatest man he ever knew was his grandmother. And this was just another example of her paving the way for, put your nose to the grindstone, do what you need to do and everything will fall in place. And he said, You know, he, she’s been his greatest teacher. And that was just really cool to hear a

Narrator 0:27
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Jordan Ostroff 1:25
Hello and welcome to Let’s get up to business with Jordan law. Joining me today is Jacqueline Boykin with Habitat for Humanity for greater Orlando and Osceola County. Thank you so much for being here.

Jacqueline Boykin 1:34
Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Jordan Ostroff 1:36
And so today we’re going to talk a little bit about businesses getting involved in charities and especially about Habitat for Humanity. So if we have somebody who knows they want to get involved, they’ve got, you know, maybe a little bit of money or a little bit of time burning a hole in their pocket and want to give back what’s the best way for them to get in touch with you.

Unknown Speaker 1:51
We’ve got a great opportunity for businesses to do employee engagement, vendor engagement, customer engagement with our team built program and that basically is the thing that everybody knows habitat for, which is coming out and swinging a hammer and building a house for somebody in our community that will end up paying a mortgage but can’t go to a bank for a regular mortgage. So it’s the volunteer aspect. We have companies who will make a financial contribution, they will get their stuff together. A lot of companies actually engage their customers and vendors to help them with either the funding or to come out as part of a team and come to the built site. You might be raising walls you might be putting up siding and FYI, no experience necessary.

Jordan Ostroff 2:33
And I emphasis on know, it’s very

Jacqueline Boykin 2:34
right. You don’t have any sense,

Jordan Ostroff 2:36
necessary but no experience. That’s

Unknown Speaker 2:38
right. And we guarantee a great day of camaraderie and fun. And people, you know, finding limits that they didn’t know they had, they may think they don’t know how to run a circular saw. And then by the end of the day, they’re like back off, I can do all the siding and it’s a great it really is a great opportunity for companies to get their employees out of the office, working together as team for something a little outside the box and

Jordan Ostroff 3:02
give back and so we got somebody listening they know they want that I think that’s a great opportunity. Phone number website email What’s the best thing I’ve

Unknown Speaker 3:10
got them all. Okay, Jay Boykin BOYKIN at pongo slow habitat Orlando Osceola dot o RG that’s also our website habitat Orlando Osceola dot o RG and how to get involved or simply give me a call 474406968 and say I want to talk about team build. We’ve also got special builds for women, women build, again, women coming together we’ve got some women owned businesses who’ve come together. Appleton creative is part of our team there to raise money and just be a group of women coming out and feeling empowered while they use power tools. And coming up in December is holiday build. So you get to wear those fun in Florida t shirts, not so much sweaters as long as you Don’t mind getting paint on them and sponsors bring out teams. We’ve got resin hotels, PCL construction coming out, call to action coaching is coming out. And so it’s a way again, financially support the charity, but have a great day on the build site. Okay.

Jordan Ostroff 4:15
So I mean, I guess you know, you have the benefit Habitat for Humanity is a known. Everybody knows what y’all do. I mean, I guess for the most of your day. All right, then in that case, for our listeners that don’t know, we’re talking about going out and building houses. But you know, tell me more about the Habitat for Humanity message.

Unknown Speaker 4:33
Yeah. So So here’s what we do. We sell homes. That’s one of the first common mistakes people believe that we give him away we actually sell them to folks that are making between 60 and 80% of the median income in the area and that varies depending upon size. But if you think of where hospitality city so these are the hardworking people in our community, who just can’t go into a bank and get a conventional mortgage, why can they get a mortgage with us because it’s anywhere from zero to a very low interest rate and it’s carried over 30 years. So that’s the affordable component. On top of that we sell the homes, frankly, for less than what they appraise for. because our goal is to keep that monthly mortgage payment, no more than 30% of someone’s income. That’s where the game changer comes in for the families that that come to habitat, because a lot of the folks coming through our door to apply. They may be paying 70 to 80% in rent for a place that frankly, nobody should even be living in many cases. This way. They are actually owning a home so they become a taxpayer in our community. They have money to put back into our economy. They show their kids there’s a different opportunity because not only are they paying the mortgage, but they are doing sweat equity, which is basically volunteer time on the build site. That’s a requirement to be a habitat homeowner. And they have to attend financial classes and homeownership classes that teach you things like how to change the air filter, because you don’t have a landlord anymore. What to do when the air conditioning breaks? How do I save money so that I can replace my roof in 10 years? How do I will my home to my kids so we teach all of our future homeowners those things. And those are all the steps they go through. It can take up to a year between the time somebody applies to the time somebody closes on a home

Jordan Ostroff 6:18
for Habitat. So going into that house build, you know who that house is earmarked for?

Unknown Speaker 6:24
Sometimes you do sometimes you don’t, the homeowner gets to pick their lot in their home in their cabinets and their flooring during that process. Okay, so you may be on the build site with somebody that’s building their neighbor’s house, they may not have been able to pick their lot yet, because they haven’t reached that minimum amount of time. But ultimately, we’d like to try to send you photos, we have community celebration. So if you want to come back and see the end result, if you put up the walls and you want to meet the homeowner and see the end result of the community. We want to make sure we have that opportunity to give that to you.

Jordan Ostroff 6:53
That’s awesome. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 6:54
it’s exciting. It’s exciting and it really does. change lives. I mean, I like to talk About my friend Melissa, who’s one of our homeowners, and she came in and applied her life with her 12 year old daughter was six hours a day on a bus in Orlando. She would go to work she would do her volunteer time and somewhere in between, she would try to help her daughter with her school and make sure she got to and from school safely the best that she could. Many times her daughter was coming home to an empty apartment and getting a habitat home that was affordable. She was able to buy a car It wasn’t a great car, but but paring down that time and that commitment and having the money to be able to put food on the table. totally changed her daughter’s outlook on what her future might be. So it really is a game changer.

Jordan Ostroff 7:39
Well in Orlando, you’re looking at what like $40,000 a year average income for a family in Florida. Exactly. And rent being 22,020 500 for a three bedroom.

Unknown Speaker 7:50
Yeah, a lot of people don’t realize it but we are number one in the country in need of affordable housing. So that’s like over Detroit and Chicago and Many areas of the country that people would think would be number one, Orlando has the number one need for affordable housing.

Jordan Ostroff 8:06
Well, and then and yet downtown, they keep building all these 700 square foot studios for 1800 dollars a month. But, you know, who am I to decide? Right? Right?

Unknown Speaker 8:15
So that’s why we’re here though. That’s why we, we ask it, you know, it takes a community to build a community is what I always like to say. So our business partners who come to us we, we recently had gray star who is a construction company, they didn’t come out to actually do construction. This was their, their staff and their customers. And they decided to put on a fundraising campaign before they came to the build site. They raised $30,000, just by reaching out to friends and associates. So it’s amazing when when the community gets together to want to evoke change and help somebody how well it works. And we’re really grateful for that.

Jordan Ostroff 8:51
So the homeownership classes you have people take are those available to anybody because I feel like everybody needs that. You know,

Unknown Speaker 8:59
I say that That all the time they are not right now but that’s not to say that we haven’t chatted about that being something available in the future because they really are things that every new homeowner needs to know you know right how to change the sprinkler head how to change the air conditioner what to look for at Lowes when you need to change the doorknob all that kind of stuff right now and they are just for our homeowners.

Jordan Ostroff 9:17
Well so so my father in law just retired was an electrical engineer mechanical engineer so he has fixed so many things at my house. Oh, wow. But it’s hilarious because we came in and it was like somebody had put like a sticky note on the air conditioner that was like oh air filter goes this direction in the wrong direction. Great. And so he’s like, Oh, that’s the wrong way. You know, it’s like in I forgot what them Oh, Independence Day The movie where he like drives into the wall and it’s like, it was exactly like that for the air filter. So so the people before us I think needed the needed that class.

Jacqueline Boykin 9:48
Yeah, it’s valuable information is really valuable information.

Jordan Ostroff 9:53
So walk me through I mean, look, there. I don’t want to I don’t want to make light of the wonderful work that You all are doing, but from a business owner perspective, kind of walk me through what’s in it for them.

Unknown Speaker 10:04
Yeah, so all of our business partners are listed on our website. And we have a recognition society called the cornerstone Guild. And any corporation or individual, frankly, who makes a donation every year of $1,000 or more, is included in the cornerstone Guild. And with that comes the recognition on our web page. If you choose to sponsor a special event like women build or holiday build, clearly, there’s other places your logo or brand would go for the event. And every year, we have an annual breakfast where we ask all of our Cornerstone guild partners to come we don’t ask for anything, this is an opportunity to say thank you and show the investment. So that’s where our board members are other business leaders in the community. And this year, we would really like to put on the radar having an exclusive build just for the heads of those companies so that they can have the opportunity to mix and mingle sort of one on one if they’re a member of the cornerstone guild out on the built site. So While they would have a day with their staff, that would be a networking opportunity to come out and build and partner and meet other like minded business folks that are out on so

Jordan Ostroff 11:08
they have like a sea level bill. Interestingly, okay, yeah. And so, you know, I mean, I guess it’s, it’s going to be slightly different for every sorry for every nonprofit, right? But obviously, when you’re putting in the time and effort and going to those events, you’re with other people that can put in the time and the effort and the money for those events as well. Right,

Unknown Speaker 11:29
right. And one of the things that I do is I or one of my team will go out and speak to a company before they even come out and answer some of these questions just like we’re doing here today, and help the employees if those employees don’t have the time to come out and volunteer to still understand what their company is doing. And you know, employee satisfaction is huge. And when you’re working for a company that’s giving back and taking part in something that meaning that’s meaningful, that’s a great benefit that any business

Jordan Ostroff 11:57
so what size companies are you Working with have them come out to the builds. We have

Unknown Speaker 12:01
all sized companies, I have to say we have a few companies that have maybe five or six employees who will come out all the way up to Rosen hotels PCL construction. the Orlando Magic comes out every year and works on a home and it’s the office stuff at the magic. It’s there. You know, the grassroots folks that are sitting behind the scenes that come out to build a home and they have their own dedication as a matter of fact that they do, it’s coming up in November, where they’ll do a celebration, and we invite a few homeowners and it’s exclusively for the magic. But we also have small mom and pop companies who come out. Paper Escape is one of them. They do custom paving for homes. Owners bring out their staff and they do a build every year. And they have a great time.

Jordan Ostroff 12:46
And so when you say they do a build, that’s going to be the entire house or that’s going to be a one day weekend. That’s going to be

Unknown Speaker 12:51
that’s a great question. So we say build because we’re habitat right, but good point. So the bill Day is a day where you’re working on more Multiple homes because we build entire communities frankly, where we’ve got a community in the pine hills area of town now in silver pines that’ll be 50 plus homes. So we’re wrapping up a community of 30 plus homes in South Apopka called Arbor bend. We have a 58 home community off of it land called Butler’s preserves. So we built whole neighborhoods. That way the folks who buy the home are moving in next to somebody they know and they’ve gone through this journey with so and you uplift an entire area when you’re putting in 30 or 40 homes. So when you come out as a volunteer group, as a corporate partner to the build site, when we say build, we mean you know, you all may be working on one home or you may be spread out over three or four homes that allows the folks who want to do the volunteering to find what tasks they want to do. Do you want to plant plants? Do you want to do mulch? Do you want to paint Do you want to put up siding because we’ll have a variety of things that we need done. day starts around seven third between 730 and eight o’clock in the morning. We change it up a little in the summer because it’s hot. So we start around seven 30 we do a little introduction, we do a safety. So everybody say stay safe on the build site. Usually our partners bring in lunch for their folks. We have lunch around 1130. Everybody has lunch, we play a game. We do a little more trivia about habitat, and then just sort of some other fun things. And then there’s about another two hours after that, and then clean up. So that’s, that’s a standard day on the belt site.

Jordan Ostroff 14:24
So when you’re saying build, you’re talking about a one day commitment,

Jacqueline Boykin 14:26
a one day commitment. Yes, absolutely.

Jordan Ostroff 14:29
And so how many people do you have out at the build site on the average build day?

Unknown Speaker 14:35
Yeah, on an average build day, anywhere from 25 to 35. People, when we do the event feel like the two days of holiday build. And again, we’re only looking for one day from from any business partner, or women build, we try to get 100 people in the built site, just so it sort of feels a little more celebratory and a little more exciting, and it gives businesses that opportunity to meet with again other like minded business partners, and as they share the day together.

Jordan Ostroff 15:04
And so when you’re talking about people sponsoring these, you know, larger events, yeah. What, what sort of interaction? Are you helping them get with the other people there?

Unknown Speaker 15:13
Well, they’re definitely meeting everybody that’s there. We actually had somebody call in today and say, they wanted to bring 50 people out, they understood the commitment was $200 a person, but they wanted to make sure that there would be some other businesses out there. So their staff could have a chance. They didn’t even really care who the other businesses were, they wanted to use it as a day to share and get to know, you know, executives from the other day. You’re working. So you might be hammering next to somebody or painting with somebody, and it’s just having a conversation. And then at lunchtime, everybody gets to know each other a little bit more.

Jordan Ostroff 15:47
So you mentioned you play a game around lunch. What sort of games it’s

Jacqueline Boykin 15:50
usually a trivia game. Okay, yeah, it’s usually a trivia game, and we’ll mix up some pop culture trivia with some habitat trivia as well.

Jordan Ostroff 15:57
So like, What year was habitat founded those kind of

Jacqueline Boykin 15:59
Go. There you go. Yeah. So whenever we tell you in the morning, we may circle back at lunchtime and ask you a question. Gotcha.

Jordan Ostroff 16:08
You know, I had it’s funny you mentioned the the trivia about yourselves. I got stuck on like a Jet Blue flight, they got delayed. And they’re giving us Jet Blue trivia like, What’s the name of this plane? What’s the name of that place? But which people knew it? And I

Jacqueline Boykin 16:20
was like, wait a minute, there was no knew that,

Jordan Ostroff 16:22
right? Like, Oh, that. But whatever. Because all the planes are blue something or something blue or whatever. Like, oh, the first plane to fly the New York to Boston was the Blue Angel or whatever.

Jacqueline Boykin 16:33
I would not know that either. Right.

Jordan Ostroff 16:34
I was so blown away. But no, it makes a lot more sense to kind of give the rundown in the morning and then follow. Right,

Jacqueline Boykin 16:39
right. Yeah, no trick questions. We want to make sure everybody gets an opportunity to, to feel like they’re successful.

Jordan Ostroff 16:46
And so when like, what steps are where are you all going to meet these potential business partners to have them come in and do the bill?

Unknown Speaker 16:54
Yeah, we are a grassroots organization. So while people are familiar with the habitat, brand, and We want to make sure that the funding we have goes back into the mission of what we’re doing. So we look to opportunities like this to share our story, we asked for the companies who are partners who they might refer and reach out. And we have some folks who, you know, just basically cold call talk to HR departments and marketing departments. So So this is, and we really appreciate this during this is exactly how we reach out to business partners is sitting here having a conversation with somebody who’s a friend of our mission.

Jordan Ostroff 17:28
I hope so, you know, we we try to do a lot of business law work for a lot of companies. So potentially there’s that’s great. Some listeners, the I know you all in mention that you are building basically communities instead of individual houses. Is that a normal thing for Habitat across the country? Or is that more for you all specifically here?

Unknown Speaker 17:44
That’s a great question. So there are a number of affiliates across the country. And every affiliate wants to meet whatever their need is in their community. So we build whole communities because of the great need we have. We’re in the top 40 affiliates in the United As a result of that, yeah, so so 30 homes a year, which is generally what we build, give or take one or two is a lot of homes for for a habitat affiliate for the affiliates that build one home a year and there are affiliates who build one two or three homes a year they’re meeting the need in their community and using the resources they have. People will ask me if the need is so great, why don’t you build more houses? And the answer is quite simple money more money. Yeah. And that’s true of any affiliate so an affiliate is is meeting their need if they’re building one or two homes a year, but maybe they should be building five or six homes a year but that is all about what kind of support they get from the community that they’re in.

Jordan Ostroff 18:41
Ya know, we talked about this a little bit before I’m on the board for Big Brother big sister. We’ve got you know, 250 300 matches already with like three to 400 on the waiting list, right? So it all comes back to you know, the wing the thing between getting into you know, turning people upside down and shake whatever money comes out but being but realizing their So much more of an opportunity to help out the less fortunate just, it’s all dependent upon the time and money.

Unknown Speaker 19:04
And you know, everything matters to and I know you know this. So if you’re out there and you’re listening and your company just can’t, you know, this is just not an opportunity for them. You know, anything that you do to make a contribution makes a difference, you know, $25, enough $25 checks, add up to huge money, as you will know, when it comes to business or nonprofit, it’s the same thing. So it really is about the financial support that we get.

Jordan Ostroff 19:29
So to get a company out, you mentioned something about $200 a person?

Jacqueline Boykin 19:33
Yeah, that’s the average that we asked for. Yeah.

Jordan Ostroff 19:35
And so that would be like, if a company is bringing five people out, you know, 200 bucks each to help fund what they’re doing. And Lyft

Unknown Speaker 19:41
Yeah, yeah. And we have creative ways that that can be done. I was talking this morning with a company that’s asking their staff to do some fundraising, but they’re going to match that. So so there are creative ways to get to that. And we’re happy to talk about that if somebody wanted to give me a call.

Jordan Ostroff 19:58
And so how do you I guess Walk me through the process of getting somebody into that house. So I know they’re coming to you beforehand. They’re going through some classes and volunteer hours themselves. But give me a little bit more information on

Unknown Speaker 20:10
Yeah. So actually, right now our applications are closed, because when we open them, and we’re going to open them shortly, we usually get anywhere from 1500 to 200. People that apply. We have a team of people that then go through all of those applications to make sure that the first step is met, which is the financial qualification. And we may have some folks who meet the qualification, meaning they make enough but maybe they haven’t had their job long enough, or they’ve had some minor credit issues for folks that we don’t easily approve, but are really, really close. We do offer that person or family a mentorship and those are volunteers who will help that person sort of get through and then reapply the next time Okay, things open. But if they get through the financial qualification piece, then the next step is that they make a commitment that they are willing willing to do the financial component and the volunteer time. And then think I always say this, think about this, they are making that commitment for those hours of time. And they also have a job. And they usually also have a family. And so however they can fit in those requirements they do, right. And it can take six or eight months, or it can take up to a year a little more. Once they are about halfway through, they get to pick their lot and begin to pick their colors on their homes because they’ve made that commitment. But if you think about it, you know, it’s like any other loan in the time that they’re going through that nothing can change so they can’t lose their job. They can’t they can’t make more money. Yeah, wow. Okay, now is there they’re going to have to re qualify at the end right before they close, just like any of us when we buy a house. So you know, that’s a tenuous process, but our homeowners are committed to it and will do anything to make sure that they continue to meet those requirements. By the time they come through the door. You know, 99% of them do you know, but the ones who qualify up front 99% of them are qualifying at the end as well.

Jordan Ostroff 22:06
And so what sort of time commitment Are you getting from them or just depend upon the house size of the house?

Unknown Speaker 22:11
It depends upon the house, the size of the family, whether there’s one head of household or two. So that’ll vary a little bit.

Jordan Ostroff 22:16
Gotcha. And so I know you’d mentioned so they might be working on other houses while their house or their work and their house if it’s far enough along. Yeah. That’s a very interesting because I feel like, you know, you get a lot more out of it by putting something into it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 22:32
Exactly. Yep. Our homeowners are dedicated to, like I said, You know, I had a young man in the speech when his grandmother actually moved into her home. And he was raised by his grandmother and he said, the greatest man he ever knew was his grandmother. And this was just another example of her paving the way for, put your nose to the grindstone, do what you need to do and everything will fall in place. And he said, You know, he, she’s been his greatest teacher. And that was just a pretty Really cool to hear I loved that.

Jordan Ostroff 23:01
That’s awesome. And so there I mean, you mentioned that people that aren’t going to qualify for normal mortgage. So they’re, they’re financing everything through you all

Unknown Speaker 23:09
week we can and have carried the mortgage, but now we’ve engaged so that we can again, sort of focus on some of our core business. So we’ve engaged a variety of financial partners. Okay, so you are willing to work with us our homeowners? Yeah,

Jordan Ostroff 23:23
they’re just going to give you they’re going to give your people a better rate considering Okay, got it. So yeah, because I can imagine you guys you know, you don’t want to get over leveraged having 150 mortgages yourself and then not being able to get through it.

Unknown Speaker 23:36
Exactly. And the banking partners, you know, the banking industry, believe it or not, is, is dedicated to building community as well. And so many of them have, you know, allow themselves that opportunity because now they’ve got requirements that they want to meet and trying to give back, just like any of the other business people were meeting and that’s a way for them to come in and try to work on the really low interest mortgages. Okay to serve a different audience than they have been

Jordan Ostroff 24:02
well, and look, everybody likes good publicity. Sure. Especially especially when it’s helping somebody out. Exactly very. You put a human face on Yeah, you know that issue?

Unknown Speaker 24:12
Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day, you know, everybody matters a businesses businesses are people you know, there are people who are running the businesses and and they want to matter as well. And and if habitat is a way for them to know that they’ve made a difference. We’re here for that. And again, I think we we do offer that team build piece which is a place for employees to feel like well, this is great company that I work for this coming out and doing this.

Jordan Ostroff 24:36
So is there a ideal size of business length of time the business is open type of business that you all are looking for, that tends to get the most out of it or really, anybody who wants that team building is the

Unknown Speaker 24:51
anybody who wants that team building, everybody’s going to get something out of it. It may feel different if they’ve got 25 employees on the site then for small company These who bring out their partners and vendors to the site. They’re still getting something out of it. What we do guarantee is, it will be a great day. I was meeting with folks from Charles Schwab last week, okay. And I, they come out every year they do three or four days every year. And sometimes it’s a small group that comes out sometimes it’s a big group. One of the things that was consistent when I was meeting with these folks, they’ve all come out multiple times to volunteer, they absolutely love it and look forward to it. The fact that they get it to do it with their co workers, they feel like it’s just an extra bonus, and that their company does matching funding for volunteer time. So they fund their employees to go volunteer in the community and these folks pick habitat because they like being together.

Jordan Ostroff 25:46
See, that’s the market good co workers, you know, hanging out on Saturday. Yeah, my wife and I joke, you know, there’s no better marriage counseling than moving furniture. If you’re not screaming at each other doing that let alone You know, putting on the siding and building the house and everything. That’s

a fact. That’s a fact.

So any great stories that you can share about stuff that’s happened at builds either, you know, funny stuff or the most emotionally impactful?

Unknown Speaker 26:11
Well, you know, our homeowners are just, they, they are the folks that just create emotion. I think though, one of the more telling stories was a company came out, and they had made their financial donation. And we had asked a homeowner to come that day to speak and talk to the group. And it turned out that she was a co worker, oh my god, and they had no idea they had applied for Habitat home. And that was an emotional day for everybody. The homeowner knew obviously she was a future homeowner. And we did not as habitat when we asked her to join us that day realize that she was employed by them the person who arranges for the team And the person who knew her employer was two different people. And she came out and has the co workers started arriving. They were like, oh, you’re volunteering today? And she said, Well, I am. But I’m going to be a habitat homeowner. And I think it really brought home. And I tell that to employers as well. You don’t know who needs us. And it could be one of your staff members or one of their family members. And it’s about helping community. And that was one of those moments that everybody realized what we really are doing now and who we’re doing it for.

Jordan Ostroff 27:39
I mean, look, I love Orlando to death, but you’ve got what 90% of our kids are on free reduced lunch. And I mean, it’s really if you work in an area where you don’t know anybody that could be or could need habitat, then God bless you. But I think that’s going to be the exception that proves the rule.

Unknown Speaker 27:55
Yeah. And the communities we’re in are, you know, the average time that folks are in their homes and these communities is 50 plus years. And it’s not a transients. It’s not transit. This is I say that, you know, these areas and neighborhoods are America at its best. It’s church on Sunday morning and Sunday dinner and families coming together. And we hear time and time again. And we see time and time again. When a homeowner has their home. They’re inviting their siblings over and their parents over and you know, we had one homeowner who the reason that she applied for a home as opposed to an apartment was she knew she was going to have to take care of her aging mom and home, she could do that. And she did you know, her mom passed away six months ago. And and that, that time with her mother was totally different because she owned a home. Right. So, you know, I could go on and on.

Jordan Ostroff 28:47
No, I, you know, it’s interesting, because before doing before in this firm, I was a prosecutor here in Orange County. So you get to see a much different side of the community as a prosecutor. Yeah. And I remember there was a Orange County Bar Association event or something, they had us go to the History Center, which used to be the old courthouse but right a little a little before I was a lawyer. But they’ve got the whole thing on on the, I think the second floor where they talk about like the formation of Orlando and the different areas of paramour and everything and like the 50s, and the families, they got together, and then I’m sitting here like going back to work. And it’s like, oh, this is, you know, there’s the crime here. You got the battery is there, it’s just, it’s crazy that you had these, you know, communities trying to stay together trying to build themselves up. And I think habitat does a much does a great job keeping that going now, and you know, 2019

Unknown Speaker 29:33
Yeah, I think you’re absolutely right. I mean, it is it really is about community. I don’t take that lightly. It’s about hard working people who want to stay at home for a very long time and they want something stable and they want that sense of community for their children as well, to you know, it’s not just about giving them different opportunities, but just about, you know, having a safe environment to come home from work every day.

Jordan Ostroff 29:56
So now that we’ve given everybody the warm fuzzy is, you know, I live there If they’re not in a position to put the $200 a person come out to a build, what are some of the other things that they can do to help?

Unknown Speaker 30:05
Yeah, so we do have some days that are available for volunteering, I’ll make the joke, but it’s not a joke July and August are, are always times to be able to come out and still be a volunteer group. So just because there’s no financial support, support doesn’t mean that we can’t get you on the build site, we do give first priority to our financial partners. And that tends to book up our Saturdays, quite frankly, quite a bit. But we have a lot of Thursday’s open for voluntary, okay. Please call me because it it doesn’t mean just because there’s no financial support doesn’t mean you can’t come out and be a volunteer.

Jordan Ostroff 30:40
Well, and I wonder like, you know, on a Thursday, there’s got to be some businesses probably easier just to close down for Thursday and cover everybody then get people back out on the Saturday we have that

Unknown Speaker 30:48
we have that as well. You know, so we want to, we want to work with our business partners schedule. Like I said, we give first right of refusal to those who are using the day as a benefit for their financial donation. And but if your company cannot make that contribution or if you’re an individual and you want to volunteer as well, and you want to know more, I encourage you to reach out. Can I give you my phone number one more time?

Jordan Ostroff 31:11
Yeah, so we’ll do that at the end. But I do want to hear Go for it. Okay for us. 74406968. I know I always the the first time we did the podcast was like, wait a minute, if I do the phone number, people have to backup for it. So and even though it’s audio when we post it will have a link to the website and everything as well. So, you know, people don’t have to furiously write down the phone number as they’re going through this. So I guess you mentioned Thursday. So what, what days of the week? Are you all out on the build side?

Unknown Speaker 31:36
Yeah, we’re on the build side, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, okay, every week because we have whole communities that are going in so we’re consistent with those days every week.

Jordan Ostroff 31:46
One I would imagine, you know, you don’t want to leave the house open for a whole week. You know, if you got certain things you’re doing or

Unknown Speaker 31:53
rapping well, and we have, you know, volunteers are great, but they can’t do electrical or plumbing or roofing so We do have subcontractors that do some of the work. And that again goes back to why do we need funding? Because I’ve actually had people say, why do you need money? There’s a misnomer that we get everything donated. We don’t, that would be great. But we don’t. And because we’re building whole communities, you know, the community of silver pine point at the end of the day will be an $8 million community. Wow. So it takes it takes money. We’re construction company, and it’s an expensive proposition.

Jordan Ostroff 32:24
And that’s eight for how many houses? That’s 50 plus homes. Oh, I mean, that would be like, Look, you go to college Park. That’s like six houses.

Jacqueline Boykin 32:32
Yes, that’s true.

Jordan Ostroff 32:33
Yeah, no, it’s, it’s interesting, because, you know, on the one hand, you sit there and you think, Okay, well, you’ve got this donated, you’ve got this, you’ve got those going, you’re selling the houses, but then really, you’re selling the houses for so much less than you could anyway, over 30 years. And I’m right, and I’m assuming you’re not getting a break on the land for a lot of this stuff. It’s,

Unknown Speaker 32:51
we buy land is inexpensively as we can but we still have to put in infrastructure. I mean, you know, when you’re building an entire neighborhood, there’s bills that come with that, you know, What we do, and that’s just the construction piece, it doesn’t build itself. We do have a small construction staff that leads the volunteers through the day, for example, and arranges for the subcontractors. And then we have the folks that have to go through all those 1500 applications, arranged for the sweat equity for the homeowners, be there to answer their questions and support and arrange for the classes. So you know, we have a, we are program team, if you will, is our construction team and the folks going through all of the homeowner process as well. So there’s the buildings and then and then there’s the people to

Jordan Ostroff 33:33
it’s a lot of moving parts to it is. Yeah, well, so thank you for you know, putting in the time and the effort and everything to get that done, because, you know, you’re sitting here having hundreds of people whose lives you’ve, you know, totally changed and helped out and been there for and give them that foundation to get back on their feet or stay on their feet or whatever it is.

Unknown Speaker 33:51
Yeah, we we like to say we’re really building a new opportunity for the next generation. Because the kids who move into the home see something different than their parents did. So that gives them an opportunity to maybe make different choices.

Jordan Ostroff 34:03
Okay? Do you all do I know you mentioned some like a breakfast for people that already donate, you do any fundraiser type stuff like that, or it’s,

Unknown Speaker 34:10
it’s all built site related, okay, it’s all built tech related, because we find most folks want to come out and be part of the built site, whether they want to lay mulch or do something else. So we don’t do any Gala’s, or anything like that. The one breakfast that we do have is a thank you breakfast for Cornerstone Guild, we do offer habit tours, where if you just want to come out and see what it’s all about, before you make any commitment, a lot of business leaders will do that. And again, they can just call me and we can schedule a habit tour. We tried to do those, like the last Thursday of the month. But I’m happy to talk to somebody about that in detail like 10 people and kind of take a tour of a house tour of a community and then get to know a little bit more and ask more targeted questions for their needs.

Jordan Ostroff 34:50
Okay, so with that all being said, anything else we need to cover?

Jacqueline Boykin 34:55
I think you gave me the opportunity to cover all of it. You know,

Jordan Ostroff 34:57
I tried to throw softballs in here.

Jacqueline Boykin 34:59
Yeah, that was That was great

Jordan Ostroff 35:00
different than being a lawyer in court. I’m not trying to catch anybody in a lie or something.

Unknown Speaker 35:05
No, thank you very much for the time. Thank you for coming out to everybody to check out our website and give me a call.

Jordan Ostroff 35:11
So while we’ve got you here if you can give us all the contact information again

Unknown Speaker 35:14
Sure. website is habitat Orlando Osceola dot o RG my email address is Jay Boykin BOYKIN at habitat Orlando Osceola dot o RG and my phone number if you don’t want to remember all of that is this 474406968 and my name is Jacqueline.

Jordan Ostroff 35:39
Alright, so thank you so much for being here. This is still a I guess not even a relatively new podcast anymore. Mark right. This will be episode almost 30 by the time this releases, so we’re available on last FM Stitcher, iTunes. What else Spotify anywhere they’ll let you post a thing. So If you come across it, you enjoy it. You like our guests you like the message that we’re sending across please please, please leave us a review obviously would love it to be five stars but a nice honest review that covers what we do would be great to help us get the information out there. Alright, so now we will will leave this podcast the way we leave all of them. If somebody takes nothing else from this what is that one piece of advice you want as many business owners as possible to know

Jacqueline Boykin 36:25
Oh gosh, that you can make a difference.

Jordan Ostroff 36:28
That is there we go. This is this is like my the most happy feeling podcasts that we’ve done normally and every other one there’s that moment where it just get like that sense of dread like oh my god, I forgot this or I did that that’s wrong or whatever. So this is our nice, happy podcast. Thank you so much for joining us for

Narrator 36:46
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