Episode 35: Yazin Abdin of Abdin Law – Full Transcript
Yazin Abdin 0:00
Don’t get me wrong, it was great working at the firm I worked at it was that it was phenomenal. I learned a lot. The experience was great and I absolutely loved it. But I got to a point where, you know, I just I needed some more flexibility had a child. I wanted to be closer to home. So there was multiple factors that led to the ultimate decision.
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Jordan Ostroff 1:17
Hello and welcome to Let’s get up to business with Jordan law. Joining me today is Yasmin abdun with abin abdun law p LLC. Yes, sir. And in a nutshell, tell me a little bit more about abdun law.
Unknown Speaker 1:29
So abdun law is a fairly new firm, and it is focused exclusively on immigration matters.
Jordan Ostroff 1:35
Alright, so for the purpose of this podcast, we’re going to be mostly talking about business owners using different immigration visas and the business immigration visas and stuff to begin with, but you will handle all sorts of immigration matters.
Unknown Speaker 1:48
Yeah, so we handle the family based stuff, the business stuff as well as the humanitarian aspects of immigration. Okay.
Jordan Ostroff 1:58
So somebody listen to the podcast. They need some immigration help. They’ve got some questions. They’ve got employees who are going through the process. What’s the best way for them to get in touch with you?
Unknown Speaker 2:07
email or telephone? So our office numbers 407-710-0101. And email. We also have the website, what’s your email? Email is yet at abdun law.com. All right,
Jordan Ostroff 2:19
Can you spell that for everybody? Just because
Unknown Speaker 2:21
yeah, it’s y ese. Yeah. At abdun a b di n, la la w.com.
Jordan Ostroff 2:29
All right. And I’m assuming abdun law. com is the website it is. Okay. So before we get into this, tell us a little bit more about you. How did you come to be an attorney and come to run apt in LA?
Unknown Speaker 2:41
So probably had to do with my mom. My mom wanted to be an attorney. She never got to pursue it because she ended up having me. And so I think all along growing up she kind of kept pushing me towards that. And so eventually just happened. I went to law school, so you destroyed her dreams and then had to live them for her. Yes. Pretty much
Jordan Ostroff 3:00
Wow. props. He has his mom. What a sacrifice. All right and then so that gets you to law school now walk me through the process of how does lawyer he has an added income to run out in LA.
Unknown Speaker 3:14
Yeah, so graduated law school started off doing some real estate because that was the first job I could find. So I get some real estate law for a few months. And finally, I found an opening in the immigration world. I worked at a larger Central Florida firm became partner there, and then ultimately left open up my own firm. kind of similar I followed somewhat in my mentors footsteps, Jordan Ostroff.
Jordan Ostroff 3:41
Yeah, right. I teach people what not to do. I walk
Unknown Speaker 3:44
that path I learned from you
Jordan Ostroff 3:46
see, nobody you follow. Like I left a large firm to then open up my
Unknown Speaker 3:50
firm and it worked out okay for you.
Jordan Ostroff 3:52
Yeah, that’s true. All right. Um, I’m Nathan me off. So why Walk me through, you know, how do you decide to make that jump I mean, like for me, I was at a government job I was capped out at you know, at $49,000 sending people to prison for life. Like for me, it was very much a financial decision of I want to be able to afford my family you know, afford my family which you can on 49,000 but it’s you know, that’s a scratch so for you, you know, your partner at this big fancy firm in downtown Orlando puts on some big parties, etc. You know, walk me through how do you make that decision to be like, Alright, it’s time to go.
Unknown Speaker 4:30
Don’t get me wrong, it was great working at the firm I worked at it was just phenomenal. I learned a lot the experience was great and I absolutely loved it. But I got to a point where, you know, I just I needed some more flexibility had a child. I wanted to be closer to home. So there was multiple factors that led to the ultimate decision of going out on my own and opening up a practice nearby my my house,
Jordan Ostroff 4:52
all right, for any of our listeners who are potentially thinking about jumping ship or opening up a second business or a side business Any advice? You know you’re in that beginning stage? Do it,
Unknown Speaker 5:05
just do it. It’s I know, it’s not that easy. There’s a lot of things that might make you not want to. A lot of us get comfortable, we get bigger, we become dependent on the salary we’re earning. So I get why someone would not want to go out on their own, because there’s a lot of risk involved. But I think the reward outweighs the risk greatly. And I think you would agree with that. And that’s what ultimately leads people to do it.
Jordan Ostroff 5:29
Well, so in total honesty, I don’t I personally agree with you. But I think there’s a lot of people that just tell people blindly to do it, like you just didn’t know fence. And for me, I don’t think that’s the necessarily the right advice because I don’t think this is for everybody. Like if, if that entrepreneurial spirit that hustle that grind was for everybody. We wouldn’t stand out as much.
Unknown Speaker 5:49
Well, I was under the impression I was assuming the person had that. Okay. All right, guys. If you don’t have that, then there’s no need to go out on your own. Just be an employee somewhere. Yeah, but if you have that entrepreneurial spirit, you You are considering doing it, but you’re just being held back by your own fears. Don’t let your fears hold you back is what I’m saying. Right? Oh definitely, definitely want to be on your own and that’s your dream that’s your vision do it don’t let fear and the comfort of a salary prevent you from pursuing your dream.
Jordan Ostroff 6:15
Right. So I always tell people read Rich Dad Poor Dad, I don’t know if you’ve read it. I have not. So Rich Dad, Poor Dad. In a nutshell, we’re getting off topic, but it’s it’s somewhat irrelevant. So basically, this guy who writes the book, his dad, his poor dad, his dad, I think was a teacher or working in education. And so when he talks about is like, every time they got a raise, they would raise their level of income, like, Okay, my dad, you know, my dad got promoted, he got a $3,000 raise, we bought a nicer car. And he talks about, like, that’s the problem that people get stuck in, where they’re never going to get ahead because they’re, they’re living to their means. And so the rich dad was actually his, his neighbor, his friend’s dad who had a dry cleaner and a grocery store and all these other businesses who had this unlimited growth potential, who was you know, saving money. Wanting to open up the next venture to get the next asset etc. So for those of you out there that don’t feel that can’t make the jump, don’t want to make the jump, don’t think the jump is right for them that but need to make more money than, you know, cut back live frugally for a bit and then try to figure out where you can invest some of that money either in you know, the stock market or somebody else’s business, you know, that’s the opportunity for you to have the growth and kind of have maybe the best of both worlds but I’m definitely with you. You know, were you as an iron similar boats, you know, we’ve got kids we’ve got wives here are wonderful. And the flexibility of having your own practice, a lot of times it makes it easier because you can hang out with your kid on those days where you’re not second quarter all the time or, you know, you have to knock out some work on a Saturday. You can go in early on or going late on that Tuesday, you know, make up some family time. So Alright, so now that we’ve got that wonderful, you know, Kumbaya. Huggy, Huggy. We’re all in this together spirit out of here. Let’s get into the the nuts and bolts and Right here. So let’s say I’m a business owner, and let’s start with the immigration visa aspect of it. And then let’s move into the business owner utilizing, you know, an immigrant labor force. Is that fair terminology? Yeah. Okay. So when it comes to somebody immigrating here for the purpose of opening a business, investing in businesses, etc, what are we talking about?
Unknown Speaker 8:23
So I think first you got to take step back and kind of just take a look at immigration law and what options it gives you. And so, generally, immigration law can be broken down three categories, the humanitarian category, the family base category, and then the business employment category. So for that business employment category, oftentimes we we get sought out by the employee or the prospective employee. However, that’s oftentimes not helpful because if they don’t have a job lined up yet, we can’t do much for them. So it’s much better when we get approached by the employer looking to hire an employee. because technically, in those situations, we would be representing the employer, the US petitioning company. And the prospect of employee would be the beneficiary of that petition. And so usually one or the other reaches out to us, and then that’s kind of where the process starts.
Jordan Ostroff 9:17
Alright, so then I was going to go the other way, but then let’s go that way. So basically, you got an employer who comes to you that says, I’ve got this employee that I need for my business, but they’ve got immigration issues. So what are the is that apply to any industry? Is that certain industries like what’s the standard for that to be applicable? Because I’m assuming it can’t be like, Hey, you know, I want a bilingual reception. So let me import this person from Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 9:38
So language is not enough alone, but that you have to have you have to be able to demonstrate other criteria, you have to show that there is a lack of such employees in the US. So basically, let’s let’s look at let’s do the EB two, for example, late labor certification process, so in a case like that you want Jordan law wants to hire somebody from abroad for a very specific reason. Typically, the better categories are the stem categories science, technology, math, engineering, those tend to work best for immigration. Because we do want to bring those types of employees to the US. And so the first part would be advertising, Jordan law would need to advertise for that position here in the US, and actually interview people. And then you would need to show that none of those people qualified for the position, which is why you have to look outside the US.
Jordan Ostroff 10:32
So do I need, like, do I need to find that person in a foreign country who’s working on like the next stage of the human genome process? Or can it just be like, I’m looking for a scientist and I don’t like any of the ones here.
Unknown Speaker 10:44
It’s got to be more than you don’t like them, you have to show that they don’t meet the requirements that you’re looking for. So you you so one of the things we do as your attorney representing the business is we draft what this position entails are the requirements what are the educational requirements? What are the Experience requirements, etc, for this position that you want to create, and then you search for that person in the US, and when they’re not available, you go elsewhere for it.
Jordan Ostroff 11:10
But how? I mean, I guess this is a case by case decision that has to be that you’re arguing for, right?
How so elaborate,
like there, it doesn’t seem to me like there’s very, there can’t really be a hard and fast rule, because then you could abuse the role like It can’t be. I need somebody with 21 years experience and I can only find people 20 years experience like there’s got to be some standard for you know, exceptional. I don’t know, what’s the
Unknown Speaker 11:36
answer, there actually, isn’t. There’s no, there’s no real standard for what it takes to get an employee here in the sense that there is no like very specific requirements like this degree or this
Jordan Ostroff 11:47
is no I get that part. But what I’m saying is like, you need to show that this candidate immigrating here has exceptional skills you can’t find is like,
Unknown Speaker 11:56
totally depends on the position. That’s that’s open right? So it’s not necessarily skills that you can’t find, but maybe just
Yazin Abdin 12:07
it’s hard. It’s hard to put it into words sometimes.
Jordan Ostroff 12:09
Is there a burden like you like when they’re hiring you to do this? And you’re arguing with the UFC is Is that right? Yeah. You’re like, hey, this person meets the standard of whatever to be given this visa.
Unknown Speaker 12:23
So yeah, we just, it’s basically a multi step process. So you just the first step is just showing that there’s no one here that can fill the position that you’ve created. Okay? You create that position and the requirements for it. And then when you can’t find somebody, the next step is finding a foreigner to do the job. And then you have to do a labor certification. You have to show that it’s in the national interest of the night Okay, that’s what I’m looking for to bring that.
Jordan Ostroff 12:49
In the national interest the United States that person needs to be here working for your company,
Yazin Abdin 12:53
that they bring it to the US. That’s what
Jordan Ostroff 12:55
I was looking for. I was looking for like that. That’s step two. Okay. Got it. So you’re going through I mean that and at the end of the day, I mean, that’s there’s a hearing on you proving that
Unknown Speaker 13:06
now it’s all paperwork, immigration is highly transactional. So the way it works is you submit your petitions to USC is, if the person the beneficiary is already here, maybe on a visitor visa or student visa or some other type of visa, then they might be able to do a change of status or an adjustment of status internally. However, if your beneficiary is outside the US, because maybe they don’t have a visa, then you would do the consular processing approach, which would entail the beneficiary going to the US Embassy in the country that they live in and applying for the visa and going through an interview process with a consular officer. Gotcha.
Jordan Ostroff 13:42
Okay. And so that’s going to be said, for the most part, that’s going to be science, technology, engineering, math type positions.
Unknown Speaker 13:50
Yeah. So for like h1 B and those types of visas, they focus on the stem categories. That seems to be what there is a lack of here in the US,
Jordan Ostroff 13:59
okay. So it’s, you know, this, it’s in the, it’s in the best interest of the nation for us to have more, you know, certain type of engineer or certain type of petition. Okay. Um, so what about for other businesses that aren’t stem category? What are some ways for them to have to utilize immigrants and their labor force or get people over here?
Unknown Speaker 14:21
So there’s other visas like the htb, and things like that they’re for agriculture workers and stuff. So there’s very specific types of visas for very specific things. So there are waste come here, even if you don’t have a degree, maybe you have a very specialized knowledge in something or something along those lines. Also, there’s the issue for example, and that’s for those who are entrepreneurs and want to open a business
Jordan Ostroff 14:44
so much to work in for someone will get to the eats at us on a little bit. So if you’re not basically if you’re not a stem industry, your industry may have specific other visas they can utilize. Yeah. All right. And can you walk us through like two or three different examples? Oh,
Unknown Speaker 15:00
So you have you have your Eb one category, that’s self petition category you have the EB two category which we briefly discussed and the EB three to Eb two and Eb three are very similar with those regards those are both immigrant categories so they ultimately lead to residence permanent residents in the US and then you have non immigrant alternatives such as the h1 b, h to be at several others. Honestly, we don’t my office doesn’t handle the H two B’s and a lot of those non immigrant employment visas we outsource those elsewhere because they’re very niche and very specific. And so we like to have someone who only works on those handle those types,
Jordan Ostroff 15:44
but for those the persons not going to get residency they’re going to finish that job and then have to go back
or apply for residency after different gotcha
Yeah, path. So I know you talked about the age to bees for agricultural, just we don’t have to go into too much detail, but our there any other like specific industries that have specific?
Unknown Speaker 16:03
Yeah, seasonal jobs such as ski resorts, right. theme parks or require sometimes so like Epcot. Right? They have the the different countries and things like that. So they will oftentimes bring people from Morocco or Egypt or whatever, to run some of those different countries. Gotcha.
Jordan Ostroff 16:22
Okay. So now I guess that’s kind of the end of the employer hiring you to bring employees over here. That’s and then the next one, we’re talking about people coming over here to open up businesses. Yeah. All right. So let’s transition to that. So talk to me about you know, somebody out there and they want to invest, you know, a bunch of money or open up a new business here. What are some of the requirements for them to be able to get a visa?
Unknown Speaker 16:47
Yeah. So this is my specialty. This is the area that I love. So I’m very passionate about this. I’ll be able to talk about this for days with you. So let’s start with the
Jordan Ostroff 16:55
only have about a
Unknown Speaker 16:59
so the E two visa is a non immigrant visa. And it’s based on a treaty between the United States and different countries. So this visa is not available to everybody because your country of nationality must have a treaty with the US, for the EU to a lot of countries, most European countries, some Middle Eastern countries, a lot of countries have this treaty with the US. Each treaty is different. So the a lot of time for the visa is going to be different depending on which country and the way this works. Basically, the E to visa is for treaty trader investors who want to come open up a business in the US we’ve done this for car washes. We’ve done this with twisty tree. We’ve done this with pizza shops and Italian restaurants. So it’s it’s doable with all types of businesses. There is no minimum required investment amount. You just have to show that you possess the requisite knowledge to operate a business.
Jordan Ostroff 17:53
Do you have to be doing a new business or can you buy a pre existing business either one
for the two
okay, but that’s not gonna Get you residency status,
Unknown Speaker 18:02
correct. It’s just a visa. And it has to be it can be renewed indefinitely. So you can keep renewing it so long as you’re operating that business and that business is doing well. And what’s going to be the lowest amount of money you’re going to be able to use to qualify, or at least that you’ve seen, I’ve seen it done with as low as $80,000. Okay. The but what we’re seeing is that the stronger that investment amount is, the more it seems like us cis gives credibility to your business. Well, yeah, of course. And so and obviously, the more money you’re investing into the economy, you know, is more appealing to the US so it helps your case. And then does
Jordan Ostroff 18:38
that business have to do well or you just have to keep running it?
Unknown Speaker 18:41
Yes, do well in order to renew. Okay, you know, if it’s a failing business, I don’t know why you would want to renew that,
Jordan Ostroff 18:48
um, maybe you’re dumping more money in the country to you know, keep it going.
I guess it would be on a case by case basis.
You Oh, you opened up a frozen yogurt food truck and you know, nobody wants for you and out of the back of a truck or something and you just keep spending more and more money.
Yazin Abdin 19:03
Sounds like a bad business plan. I don’t know.
Jordan Ostroff 19:06
I’ve never I’ve never seen a fro yo truck so maybe it’s a good plan.
Unknown Speaker 19:11
Well, the way you described it the guys dumping money into it sounds like a bad plan but maybe it’s just a shell corporation to keep
Jordan Ostroff 19:17
them here you know, he does as well or her Alright, so then what other opportunities are there for investors out of country investors to come in
Unknown Speaker 19:27
out of country investors come in you have the L one visa, the L one visa requires you to be an executive or manager at a business outside the US okay? And then basically, your company outside the US can open up a sister branch in the US and transfer you as an executive or manager to the US location to build it up just like you did the outside location. So imagine that a lot of that’s gonna be like banks or financial companies. No one when Congress created it, it was intended for larger corporations, Hilton Marriott, these these company needs that have branches all over the world, and they want to be able to move their executives around from one location to the other. And so that’s what the L one visa is intended for. immigration attorneys have gotten creative over the years and we have used this visa for smaller businesses of 10 employees and whatnot. It is difficult when you do that, but it is possible. Okay. And then what I know there’s the one it’s like $500,000 investment, I think, what’s that one? That’s the EB five that I’m going to paste category five. Okay, so the EB five is actually my favorite. The Eb five was created in 1990. And it’s been around since then. And basically it’s a real simple program, you invest half a million dollars, or it was half a million dollars up until November 21 2019. It went up to $900,000. So it
Jordan Ostroff 20:48
almost doubled just missed the opportunity. We did this podcast too late.
Unknown Speaker 20:52
Well, there’s still people investing obviously the numbers decrease because not as many people have that kind of money. So definitely reduces the numbers, but it’s okay because we were backlog in this category anyways, because Congress has only allocated 10,000 visas a year for the EB five category. And since 2014, we started using more than 10,000. And so that’s created a backlog.
Jordan Ostroff 21:15
So the I guess the goal of this is to remove some of the backlog.
Unknown Speaker 21:18
And theory Yeah, and also the gist of the fee, the $500,000. Investment amount hasn’t changed since 1990. And call in Congress and and you know, government officials have been talking about raising it raising and raising for several years, and I finally did, so that’s going to be investing $100,000 in a new business and already existing business, either one. So there’s two ways to invest your money, you can invest it in a direct project, which would be your own business. Okay. Most people do not do this, though. Most people prefer the second option, which is investing your money into the regional center, or regional center is kind of misleading. It’s not a center. It’s a location. It’s not a physical place. It’s just license. So developers will apply for this regional center license designation, which will allow them to collect foreign investor money and use it to build these projects. And so let’s say Jordan has a regional center license going to develop a big Marriott Hotel resort, and you need 100 foreign investors at 900,000 apiece. And so you would go out and seek those investors and do the project for them.
Jordan Ostroff 22:22
So I mean, in essence, that regional center is really like a venture capitalist. They’re looking for investors for money to spend on
Unknown Speaker 22:29
Yeah, the way I like to think of it is, is bank money can be expensive, right? So this works out for the developer and for the beneficiary, because the developer gets to borrow cheap money, and they’re going to pay the investor nominal interest. And the investor, though, is not really doing this for the money. They’re doing this for the green card for themselves and their family. Right. So it’s a win win for everybody in that respect. And you have to
Jordan Ostroff 22:51
put that towards building. No, so you’re just happens to be developers a lot.
Unknown Speaker 22:56
Yeah. So the developers will use the money wherever they need to Actually, it’s in constructing the project. But there’s also a second requirement. So investing the money is just step one there step two, which is creating 10 jobs per investor. So if you do the direct Eb five investment where you do your own enterprise, you are responsible for creating those jobs. However, when you wish to treat model like you talked about, such a secret used to be the 500 500,000 to open up a thing, and then they’d manage it. And so twisty treat, we did more for the E to visa because with a twisty treat, it’s hard to hire 10 full time employees it’s hard to justify 10 full time employees for a twisted treat.
Jordan Ostroff 23:36
I don’t know man depends on how busy they are.
Unknown Speaker 23:37
Yeah, that’s true. But yeah 10 full time employees don’t underestimate that right? It’s that’s a lot and an ice cream shop. You might need five six full time employees 10 unless it’s a really busy location. Maybe you can justify it.
Jordan Ostroff 23:51
But I don’t know man. You ever go to a C treat? It’s busy.
Yazin Abdin 23:54
Usually two employees in their two three depends on what time I have gone. There’s been like six or Friday or Saturday. Yeah, but they You know, 40 hours a week, if you’re open seven days a week for,
Jordan Ostroff 24:03
you know, it’s doable hours a day. It’s doable. Anyway. Um, okay, so for the EB five, you’ve got to create 10 full time jobs, right? For how long did it as jobs need to exist.
Unknown Speaker 24:16
So those jobs exist until you get the permanent green card, and then you as the investor at that time can sell your interest in the regional center and recoup your money.
Jordan Ostroff 24:25
And so that may be a couple years.
Yazin Abdin 24:28
So it’s probably probably closer to six or seven years before you can tell them six or
Unknown Speaker 24:32
seven years. Yeah, because it’s a multi step process. So first, you apply for the conditional green card, they give you that based on just the investment. But then you have to prove over the course of two years that the 10 jobs were created. And then when you do that, they give you a permanent green card.
Jordan Ostroff 24:48
So when you’re doing when you’re investing in these buildings, and these builder things, the construction workers town or your it’s really the employees of the hotel once it’s over.
Unknown Speaker 24:58
That’s a good question. That’s actually really cool. Because if you do a direct project, then they have to be 10 full time employees. But if you do the regional center approach, they count what’s called induce jobs, jobs, such as construction that are there temporarily, but they’re going to be gone once the construction is over. Right? So it’s not really a long term full time job. But you get to count those for the regional center. There’s there’s a calculation on what percentage that counts as an employee. Oh,
Jordan Ostroff 25:24
so so 40 construction workers may count as eight employees. Gotcha. Okay. So there’s all thing
Unknown Speaker 25:30
there’s a whole algorithm thing that they use their we get, we get economics involved in this and they have to do all these calculations and figure it
Jordan Ostroff 25:37
sounds like that’s so much easier way to do it.
Unknown Speaker 25:40
Yeah, I’d say my guess is about 90% of investors go through the regional center approach, right and 10% do their own
Jordan Ostroff 25:46
and because it is so much easier. What does it take to become a regional center? It’s gotten
Unknown Speaker 25:50
much more complicated. You have to file immigration forms with USC is you have to submit a business plan what your project is going to be You need economic reports showing why this area needs a boost in the economy, how you’re going to create the jobs, how you going to calculate the job creation, it’s a whole thing. You submit that to us cis along with like a $20,000 fee. And then after several years because the this category has become so backlogged and USC is has become inundated with these applications for regional centers, because it’s become so popular. And so now you wait a couple years before you can even get the license.
Jordan Ostroff 26:29
So what’s gonna say that sounds like something great for a lot of our business owners looking to grow. But it sounds like there’s a time suck that comes into it.
Unknown Speaker 26:37
There’s an alternative, you can rent a regional center license from someone who already has, so you don’t need to apply for your own. You can rent other people’s regional center licenses and work under them. But are you stuck on their business plan?
Jordan Ostroff 26:49
Or do you have to resubmit a business plan or how does that work? So be completely honest
Unknown Speaker 26:53
with you? I don’t know because I’ve never done this. I know it’s possible. Yeah, but I’ve never done it. Okay. But I Down with how backlog, the regional center application thing is taking. This seems to be the better approach for people,
Jordan Ostroff 27:06
right? This is one of those it takes money to make money.
Unknown Speaker 27:09
Because I imagine like there’s somebody out there who 10 years ago invested, you know, $20,000 and having this regional license, and now it wasn’t even that much the application was like $1,000, a few years old. It’s crazy how much it was over just a couple years. And now
Jordan Ostroff 27:21
you’ve got like, you know, an entire an entire city in Qatar that wants to help you open up a new hotel, and here’s a here’s a $90 million of investment money, but we need your regional center thing. And take whatever cut you want, because we just want to get here ASAP. Fantastic. All right. Um, any anything else briefly that we’ve got to go over that we that we missed to let people know about?
Unknown Speaker 27:44
I think we hit all the major visas, the big categories. There’s the family based stuff. I don’t know if you want to talk about that. It’s pretty common sense. If you have certain family members there.
Jordan Ostroff 27:55
They can apply for you. Yeah, I mean, that’s for our listeners. I’m looking at more from that business perspective. So the growing a business bringing on new employees you know, especially the key employees
Unknown Speaker 28:04
I’d say it’s everything is a case by case basis. So it depends on as the business owner what kind of business you operate. What are your plans for growth? Why do you need a foreign employee? And then you know if if we see that there is indeed a need, then we will create that job. Oh god find someone to fill it.
Jordan Ostroff 28:22
Alright, so then let’s not make people have to scroll back to get your info. So now they listen to this. We’ve got that business owner who knows they want you know, some extra help. Or we’ve got somebody who wants to, you know, invest more and switch over to a more permanent residency here. What’s the best way for me in touch with you?
Unknown Speaker 28:38
So email or phone, office numbers 407-710-0101. And email address is Yaz y, AZ. At abt in law, a B di n la w.com.
Jordan Ostroff 28:54
All right. So now that we’ve gone on this, I think it’s going to be about our 40 second episode mark. Something like that. All right. Wow.
Yazin Abdin 29:05
Yeah, that’s pretty cool. I didn’t know you guys have done that many.
Jordan Ostroff 29:08
Yeah, one congrats at least one a week for a almost a full year. It’s a big deal. Yeah. So what we’ve had recently we’ve had some business owners or listeners reach out to us with a specific need. We had some people reach out to us about, you know, being interested in walking them through the process of how mergers and acquisitions happen. And so we had somebody come on and talk about a merger that they had. So if you’re listening to this, rather than me asking you for reviews now that we’ve kind of got to a good number, obviously, leave us a review if you want, especially for our wonderful guests like yes, but if you have a specific question needs situation that you’re interested in, please shoot me an email. My email is j o r da n at Jordan law FL. com that’s FL is in Florida. So Jordan and Jordan law FL com. And if we can’t answer it internally, we will get somebody on who’s an expert in it or in that situation. Somebody who’s like oh, literally had just gone through the process and kind of walked everybody through that first, you know, six to eight month jump on what to expect when merging. Alright, so with that being said, we’re going to end this the same way we had all these if somebody listened to this for the last 35 minutes, and remembers absolutely nothing that they talked about except this one thing. What is that one piece of advice you want as many business owners as possible to know.
Unknown Speaker 30:26
Be careful, don’t get yourself in trouble hiring illegal employees, make sure you do things the right way so that you don’t end up getting fined and possibly having your business shut down.
Jordan Ostroff 30:38
All right. So go about it the right way, even though it might take a little bit more time might cost a lot better in the long run. Yeah, always. All right. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me.
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